thanks in advance. IPO V2 R8 9620l phones. has anyone insatlled vpn phones using fortigate 60c routers. i have used Sonicwalls, pix routers, and the supported avaya routers. the IT guy is a pain to deal with and only uses fortigate products. i gave him the settings we used before and work. as mention to him Ipsec tunnel with xauth-pre shared key. the install is monday and deploying vpn phones. just trying to get any input before i deal with the IT vendor that is a pain.