Avaya S8800 Design query 1

[farazat]

Hi, We are designing S8800 Avaya system and need some help in following

1- Which CISCO PoE switches are recommended for Avaya IP
phones and which CISCO switches are recommended for Avaya
Servers/Gateways etc..For TLAN/ELAN/SLAN?
2- Is there any Avaya IP phone available;e which can be mount
on Wall? i mean wall mounted IP set.
3- Same system have 150 IP sets, designed on S8800 with AES
also, How many IP`s of TLAN/System LAN are required?

Thanks

 

[uzumaki]

1- Which CISCO PoE switches are recommended for Avaya IP phones and which CISCO switches are recommended for Avaya Servers/Gateways etc..For TLAN/ELAN/SLAN? - Any Cisco switch that can support PoE.

2- Is there any Avaya IP phone available;e which can be mount on Wall? i mean wall mounted IP set. - 46XX and 96xx

3- Same system have 150 IP sets, designed on S8800 with AES also, How many IP`s of TLAN/System LAN are required? - CLAN interfaces are best recommended for adjuncts like CMS, AES, AVP etc.

 

[farazat]

Hi PAL, thanks for the info, Actullay my 3rd question was regarding Number of IP`s (CLAN/System LAN) which will be required for the system as given below

S8800+Gateway with AES
160 IP set
One Conference IP set
24 Analog ext
One PC console

 

[Mitch672]

you didn't provide all of the information to answer the question.

S8900 simplex or duplex? (1 or 2 servers?): for simplex only 1 IP is needed, for duplex, 3 IPs are needed.

What type of gateway on the S8800 system? G650? then there would be IPSI, MEDPRO, CLAN, maybe VAL etc. so open ended question, each needs an IP...

If a G450/G430, then just 1 IP is needed for the PMI (Primary Management Interface)



Mitch

AVAYA Certified Expert

 

[farazat]

Sorry for incomplete info,It is

S8800 Simplex/G650
AES
160 IP set
One Conference IP set
24 Analog ext
One PC console

I need to know total number of different IPs which should be requested to customer as spare

 

[tlpeter]

Shouldn't you know this all before you are going to design the 8800 ?
Do you know how to program it ?



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[Mitch672]

S8800 Simplex: 1 IP address

G650: (specific to cards installed)
IPSIs (1 each) (possibly on a private control network)
CLANs (If any) 1 each
MEDPROs 1 IP each, or if 2 TN2602APs in a high reliability setup, then 3 IPs
VALs (if any) 1 IP each

AES: 1 IP address

IP sets, IP conference phone, IP console 1 DHCP IP each

It would be best if the customer has a "Layer 3" switch, to request your own Class C IP subnet, routed to the rest of the clients network, since you will need 162 IPs just for the phones, plus another 4-8 for the phone equipment. This is how I would do it. Also make sure you get the "Default Gateway" and subnet mask info from them as well, you will need it so when you setup the IP interfaces, the traffic can be routed to the rest of the clients network.

It would also be best if you can get "external internet" access on your VLAN, so you can get to an external NTP (Time server) such as "time.nist.gov" (192.43.244.18), or if the client has one, find out what their internal NTP server is, you don't want the time drifting on the S8800 server.



Mitch

AVAYA Certified Expert

 

[telcoguy]

Please dig into the design documentation, as you need IP's on diffrent subnets, which you need to assign to diffrent VLAN's on the Cisco's.
You don't want to put this number of IP phones on the customer LAN,where their PC's are.
So you need to create a network design, where the phone endpoints are assigned their own network. (I would just assign a /24 to voiceLAN) Specifically when you want to asssign the switchport on the bottom of the phone, you need to seperate into VLAN's (if you can you should always)
Any Cisco with POE, like L3:3560 (non-stacked), 3750(stacked), or L2: 2960, or the Avaya equivalent 4500, and 2500 series switches. (former Nortel)
700415623 is the partnumber for a 1608 wallmount, and 700415631 for a 1616 wallmount.