Avaya g430 to g450 upgrade

[dapster1]

I Have a G430 Media Gateway PBX S8300 / release cm5.2. This system is all digital (no-iP) and this acct. needs additional digital ports and analog ports. I already have 2 em200 modules installed on this g430. I would like to upgrade this customer to the g450 cabinet to give me more slots. So what I am asking is can I migrate this existing g430 system to a g450 with minimal tasks? Can someone give me a general idea and steps to get this accomplished?
I have all the Avaya Install manuals but nothing that guides me thru an upgrade migration to the new g450.
(I have over 25 yrs in Nortel but just 3-4 in Avaya CM)

Thanks in Advance

 

[kyle555]

Wouldn't going from a a G430 +2 EM200s to a G450 just get you from 7 to 8 slots? Wouldn't it be more cost efficient to add another G430?

Anyway, to "remove" the old gateway you'd have to remove all translated things on it - like sets and trunks. So, you'd be best to add the new gateway and add the modules in software before moving them. You'd X port all the phones from gateway 1 and change them to gateway 2. There isn't any easy way to tell the system "I'm removing gateway 1 with sets programmed on it and adding this different type of gateway as gateway 1 in it's place"

There are ways of doing that with Provision - a paid application, like ASA on steriods, that would take tasks like that and break them down into all the little commands and do it for you - which would be nice if you were swapping 100 G700 gateways for 100 G450s. It it's a one-off, you're better to take a good backup before you start and just bang it out of the terminal.

 

[dialtonebone]

kyle555 above pretty much summarized it.

It might be worth the time though to call a business partner and tell them you need someone with ProVision to assist for 4-8 hours with migrating all the translations. It can save a ton of time depending on the complexity of the project and your prior experience with the system. Great learning opportunity though as you get to de- and re-translate a lot of stuff.

Also, don't forget announcements in v9.

 

[AvayaTier3]

You should be able to add g700, g350, g430, g450 to existing system for more capacity or slots for your needs.
To replace g430 with g450 would require new Avaya RFA license to match the g450 serial number which now matches the g430.
Adding MG's do not require this.

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[kyle555]

I'm sorry. Mr. Tier 3 is absolutely right. You can do an RFA serial number swap to change gateway serial numbers, but at 5.2 you absolutely need a $0 material code ordered to change the gateway model. If your CM is in a G350, then RFA has the model# and serial#. You can't just change the serial number in RFA to move to a G450 gateway.

I totally forgot about that!

 

[dapster1]

Thanks for all the direction advice on this question. I believe my customer will allow me to hire an Avaya Business Partner to upgrade this site as you have suggested.
I will lookup the Provision tool and learn all I can about it.
If the migration software is similar to Nortel I would rather have the pros such as yourselves achieve this for me. Thankfully for me it is not till November.
Thanks for the answers and appreciate all the advice you have given me over the last 3-4 years on other Avaya topics from other OPs