I usually use Cisco switches for Vlan configuration and find it very straightforward! But, I've got a site with several HP 2610 Procurves, they want the voice and data in seperate vlans. The data will stay untagged (native) and the voice will be in Vlan 20 (for example) I've been reading the HP PDF files and I really can't get my head around assigning a voice vlan command for each ethernet port. Also I usually use a cisco router as a gateway with subinterfaces so inter vlan routing is easy, the customer has a Draytek DSL router, If i set up two vlans on the procurve with an address in the two subnets can I add a route on the Draytek to point at the ip addresses configured on the Procurve to be able to route between the two subnets for admin access to the 3300 and UCX? Any help would be very much appriciated!!