All code on Netscape 2

[sodor]

Why would netscape 4.73 generating the code and not compiling it ?<br>On IE it's all fine but on Netscape I get all code.<br>The code is written using notepad and just plain tables.<br>T.I.A.&nbsp;&nbsp;

 

[unicorn11]

Hi there <br><br>it does not show in the page but the code is available <br>then the error is in the code either a closing tag of the cell or a row or the table tag so please check the tags netscape is very perticular about it <br><br> <p>Unicorn11<br><a href=mailto:webmaster@tripmedia.com>webmaster@tripmedia.com</a><br><a href= > </a><br>Hi there it all likeminded fellows!!!!!!

 

[carpeliam]

I'm sorry, but I really don't understand the question... I'm overtired, so that could be it. Hopefully unicorn11 has a much better grasp on that than I do.. if not, could you give a link to your site in question? <p>Liam Morley<br><a href=mailto:lmorley@wpi.edu>lmorley@wpi.edu</a><br><a href=

http://www.wpi.edu/~lmorley/>

] :: imotic :: website :: [</a><br>"light the deep, and bring silence to the world.<br>
light the world, and bring depth to the silence.

 

[sodor]

Thank you, its <A HREF="

http://www.crystalcreative.com/tempor/index.htm"

TARGET="_new">

http://www.crystalcreative.com/tempor/index.htm</A>

 

[sodor]

Here is the code for the site.&nbsp;&nbsp;Unicorn11 was right that on this page I missed a &lt;/body&gt; but on the other pages which are similar to this one I saw no misssing tags.&nbsp;&nbsp;Here is an example:&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;Thanks!<br>&lt;html&gt;<br>&lt;head&gt;<br><br>&lt;title&gt;Crystal&lt;/title&gt;<br>&lt;/head&gt;<br>&lt;body background = &quot;gicb3.jpg&quot;&gt;<br>&lt;center&gt;<br><br>&lt;table width=&quot;755&quot; noresize=&quot;yes&quot; cellspacing=&quot;0&quot; cellpadding=&quot;0&quot; border = &quot;0&quot;&gt;<br>&nbsp;&lt;tr&gt;<br>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&lt;td width = &quot;33%&quot; border= &quot;0&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;<br>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&lt;td&nbsp;&nbsp;border=&quot;0&quot;&gt;<br>&lt;a href=&quot;index.htm&quot;&gt;&lt;img border=&quot;0&quot; src=&quot;home_button.jpg&quot; width=&quot;72&quot; height=&quot;36&quot;&gt;&lt;/a&gt;<br>&lt;a href=&quot;profile.htm&quot;&gt;&lt;img border=&quot;0&quot; src=&quot;company_button.jpg&quot; width=&quot;72&quot; height=&quot;36&quot;&gt;&lt;/a&gt;<br>&lt;a href=&quot;products.htm&quot;&gt;&lt;font face=&quot;Arial&quot; size=&quot;3&quot;&gt;&lt;img border=&quot;0&quot; src=&quot;products_button.jpg&quot; width=&quot;72&quot; height=&quot;36&quot;&gt;&lt;/a&gt;<br>&lt;a href=&quot;events.htm&quot;&gt;&lt;font face=&quot;Arial&quot; size=&quot;3&quot;&gt;&lt;img border=&quot;0&quot; src=&quot;current_events_button.jpg&quot; width=&quot;72&quot; height=&quot;36&quot;&gt;&lt;/a&gt;<br>&lt;a href=&quot;jobopp.htm&quot;&gt;&lt;font face=&quot;Arial&quot; size=&quot;3&quot;&gt;&lt;img border=&quot;0&quot; src=&quot;career_button.jpg&quot; width=&quot;72&quot; height=&quot;36&quot;&gt;&lt;/a&gt;<br>&lt;a href=&quot;mailto:<A HREF="mailto:info@crystalcreative.com">info@crystalcreative.com</A>&quot;&gt;&lt;img border=&quot;0&quot; src=&quot;Contact_button.jpg&quot; width=&quot;72&quot; height=&quot;36&quot;&gt;&lt;/a&gt;<br>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&lt;/td&gt;<br>&nbsp;&lt;/tr&gt; <br>&lt;/table&gt;<br>&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;<br><br>&lt;table width=&quot;755&quot; border=&quot;0&quot; cellspacing=&quot;0&quot; cellpadding=&quot;0&quot;&gt;<br>&nbsp;&lt;tr&gt;<br>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&lt;td width=&quot;8%&quot; &gt;&lt;/td&gt;<br>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&lt;td width=&quot;25%&quot; align =&quot;center&quot;&gt;&lt;img border=&quot;0&quot; src=&quot;Crystal_Logo.jpg&quot; width=&quot;108&quot; height=&quot;99&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&nbsp;&nbsp;<br>&lt;td&gt; <br>&nbsp;&lt;/td&gt;<br>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;<br>&nbsp;&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;/table&gt;&lt;br&gt;<br>&lt;table width=&quot;755&quot; border=&quot;0&quot; cellspacing=&quot;0&quot; cellpadding=&quot;0&quot;&gt;<br>&lt;tr&gt;<br>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&lt;td width = &quot;45%&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;<br>&nbsp;&lt;td width = &quot;45%&quot;&gt;<br>&lt;b&gt;&lt;font align=&quot;center&quot; color=&quot;#4D7E8C&quot; face=&quot;Times New Roman&quot; size=&quot;6&quot;&gt;Detailed History&lt;/font&gt;&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/td&gt;<br>&lt;/tr&gt;<br><br><br>&lt;/table&gt;<br>&lt;br&gt;&lt;BR&gt;<br><br>&lt;table width=&quot;755&quot;&gt;<br>&lt;tr&gt;<br>&nbsp;&lt;td width=&quot;33%&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;<br>&nbsp;&lt;td width=&quot;10%&quot;&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;fitold4.jpg&quot;&gt;&lt;img border=&quot;0&quot; src=&quot;fitold4icon.jpg&quot; width=&quot;96&quot; height=&quot;71&quot;&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/td&gt;<br>&nbsp;&lt;td width=&quot;56%&quot;&gt;&lt;font face=&quot;Arial&quot;&gt;The history of Crystal truly parallels the story of the<br>&nbsp;&nbsp;industrial revolution and what makes the United States still the leader in<br>&nbsp;&nbsp;world-wide product innovation today.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Crystal&#146;s history begins in the early 1800&#146;s when a<br>&nbsp;&nbsp;hard working, buckskin pioneer by the name of Adam Dickey crossed the<br>&nbsp;&nbsp;Allegheny<br>&nbsp;&nbsp;mountains with his family and made his home along the banks of the proposed<br>&nbsp;&nbsp;Miami-Erie canal in the peaceful Miami valley of southern Ohio. Today, on this<br>&nbsp;&nbsp;same tract of land Crystal&#146;s headquarters and paper mill still stands.<br>&nbsp;&nbsp;Dickey soon established a trading post called Amanda, a thriving port of call<br>&nbsp;&nbsp;for bargemen and traders, located outside of what today is known as<br>&nbsp;&nbsp;Middletown, Ohio.&nbsp;&lt;/td&gt;<br>&lt;/tr&gt;<br>&lt;/table&gt;<br>&lt;br&gt;<br><br>&lt;table width=&quot;755&quot;&gt;<br>&lt;tr&gt;<br>&nbsp;&lt;td width=&quot;33%&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;<br>&nbsp;&lt;td width=&quot;10%&quot;&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;fitold1.jpg&quot;&gt;&lt;img border=&quot;0&quot; src=&quot;fitold1icon.jpg&quot; width=&quot;96&quot; height=&quot;71&quot;&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/td&gt;<br>&nbsp;&lt;td width=&quot;56%&quot;&gt;&lt;font face=&quot;Arial&quot;&gt;In 1827 the enterprising Dickey started a saw mill using<br>&nbsp;&nbsp;water power from the canal. About the same time he built a flour mill and by<br>&nbsp;&nbsp;1886 the flour mill was converted to a strawboard mill.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;<br>&nbsp;&nbsp;In 1894 the name was changed to the Crystal Tissue Paper<br>&nbsp;&nbsp;Company. During the early 1900&#146;s a new mill was erected and the first ever<br>&nbsp;&nbsp;120&quot; wide tissue machine was put in place - the largest machine of its<br>&nbsp;&nbsp;kind at that time.&nbsp;&lt;/font&gt;&lt;/td&gt;<br>&lt;/tr&gt;<br>&lt;/table&gt;<br>&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;<br><br>&lt;table width=&quot;755&quot;&gt; <br>&lt;tr&gt;<br>&nbsp;&lt;td width=&quot;33%&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;<br>&nbsp;&lt;td width=&quot;10%&quot;&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;fitold31.jpg&quot;&gt;&lt;img border=&quot;0&quot; src=&quot;fitold3icon.jpg&quot; width=&quot;96&quot; height=&quot;71&quot;&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/td&gt;<br>&nbsp;&lt;td width=&quot;56%&quot;&gt;&lt;font face=&quot;Arial&quot;&gt;Product innovation has always been<br>&nbsp;&nbsp;part of Crystal&#146;s rich history. During the early 1900&#146;s new products such<br>&nbsp;&nbsp;as twisting tissue were used for colorful fiber rugs and mats which were<br>&nbsp;&nbsp;becoming so popular in the homes of early American&#146;s were manufactured by<br>&nbsp;&nbsp;Crystal.&nbsp;&lt;/font&gt;&lt;/td&gt;<br>&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;/table&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;<br><br>&lt;table width=&quot;755&quot;&gt;<br>&lt;tr&gt;<br>&nbsp;&lt;td width=&quot;33%&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;<br>&nbsp;&lt;td width=&quot;10%&quot;&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;fitold2.jpg&quot;&gt;&lt;img border=&quot;0&quot; src=&quot;fitold2icon.jpg&quot; width=&quot;96&quot; height=&quot;71&quot;&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/td&gt;<br>&nbsp;&lt;td width=&quot;56%&quot;&gt;&lt;font face=&quot;Arial&quot;&gt;In 1921 Crystal was the first to put white and colored<br>&nbsp;&nbsp;tissue on rolls for re-sale in variety chain stores such as the S. S. Kresge<br>&nbsp;&nbsp;Company. Crystal was also the first company to market colored tissue on gift<br>&nbsp;&nbsp;wrapping rolls. A short time later, Crystal printed their white tissue and<br>&nbsp;&nbsp;converted it into re-sales rolls as well.&nbsp;&lt;/font&gt;&lt;/td&gt;<br>&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;/table&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;<br><br>&lt;table width=&quot;755&quot;&gt;<br>&lt;tr&gt;<br>&nbsp;&lt;td width=&quot;33%&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;<br>&nbsp;&lt;td width=&quot;10%&quot;&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;main.jpg&quot;&gt;&lt;img border=&quot;0&quot; src=&quot;main.jpg&quot; width=&quot;96&quot; height=&quot;71&quot;&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/td&gt;<br>&nbsp;&lt;td width=&quot;56%&quot;&gt;&lt;font face=&quot;Arial&quot;&gt;During the 1930&#146;s the demand for light weight papers<br>&nbsp;&nbsp;continued to increase. Crystal was the leader in the industry for supplying<br>&nbsp;&nbsp;twisting tissue for automobile seat covers.&nbsp;&nbsp;<br>&nbsp;&nbsp;&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;<br>&nbsp;&nbsp;Other innovative products that followed over the years<br>&nbsp;&nbsp;were waxed tissue for Nabisco that essentially took the cracker out of the<br>&nbsp;&nbsp;cracker barrel at the general store and packaged it similar to how crackers<br>&nbsp;&nbsp;are still sold today. Foil mounting tissue helped Wrigley keep their chewing<br>&nbsp;&nbsp;gum fresh as well as numerous other candy manufacturers. Crystal also<br>&nbsp;&nbsp;introduced colored waxed tissue for the floral industry that helped to<br>&nbsp;&nbsp;brighten up flower bouquets. Today Crystal&#146;s decorative tissue and gift bags<br>&nbsp;&nbsp;can be found in stores across the nation. Crystal remains very proud of its<br>&nbsp;&nbsp;rich heritage for innovative products and meeting<br>&nbsp;&nbsp;the needs of our customers.&nbsp;&nbsp;&lt;/font&gt;&lt;/td&gt;<br>&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;/table&gt;<br>&lt;/center&gt;&lt;/body&gt;<br>&lt;/html&gt;

 

[carpeliam]

I ran it through Netscape 6 Preview Release, and now I see what you mean.<br><br>Well, for one thing, you have comments after your closing HTML tag... which you probably shouldn't have... but I know that's not it.<br><br>The interesting thing is this- if you cut the index.htm off the end of the URL, you're supposed to still get the same page (as it's index.htm, or default.htm on a MS server)- however, you get a directory listing; same thing goes on IE, too. Check with your server admin what the default page name for a directory should be on your server (I forgot the link to detect what kind of server you're running on, or else I'd have a better idea).<br><br>Also... I copied the HTML from the page straight to a text document and loaded it up to my directory (I've since deleted it)- I can see it just fine on Netscape... so it's not an HTML problem (I also ran it through website garage- the only HTML problems it listed was lack of height and width attributes on your img tags).<br><br>So I'm guessing it's a permissions problem or something on your server... it's not the HTML code. how are you uploading them? <p>Liam Morley<br><a href=mailto:lmorley@wpi.edu>lmorley@wpi.edu</a><br><a href=

http://www.wpi.edu/~lmorley/>

] :: imotic :: website :: [</a><br>"light the deep, and bring silence to the world.<br>
light the world, and bring depth to the silence.

 

[sodor]

Thanks for your help!<br>I've been FTPing. It's interesting, that if you go to the root directory- <A HREF="

http://www.crystalcreative.com"

TARGET="_new">

http://www.crystalcreative.com</A>

, You won't get code, Of course the compiling jumbles it up, but it does run the code. So that indicates that the permissions are OK,<br>it's on an Apache server.... wait... as I'm writing I think you are right... When I created the new tempor directory I never chmodded.&nbsp;&nbsp;Holy Cow, it has default perms, that's probably it, I'll go fix it now, Thank you Liam<br>and <br><br>Have a great 4th of July!!!

 

[sodor]

One Question, How come If it's a permissions problem IE is able to compile the code properly?<br>

 

[carpeliam]

Well, NN is a funny browser. Sometimes it's lax, and other times it's strict. Like in IE, you can get away without varring your variables in JavaScript. That can rarely be done in NN. (That's not a great example, as a higher expectation can be set for JavaScript as it's a scripting language rather than a markup language, but the point remains.) Some say the strength of a good browser is its ability to deal with errors and shrug them off; I believe that to a certain extent (if/when we all make the big move to XML, we won't have such great luck). In this particular area, I guess Netscape just happens to be more strict. This is one of the few times I'd side with Netscape... I don't believe pages should be displayed if the chmod isn't set correctly... it's kinda dangerous. However, if NN was like IE, you'd never notice, which might not be a good thing.<br><br>When it comes right down to it... I'm not exactly sure why IE would take something with default permissions and display it anyway. That could be a security flaw... I'd certainly say it's dangerous. <p>Liam Morley<br><a href=mailto:lmorley@wpi.edu>lmorley@wpi.edu</a><br><a href=

http://www.wpi.edu/~lmorley/>

] :: imotic :: website :: [</a><br>"light the deep, and bring silence to the world.<br>
light the world, and bring depth to the silence.

 

[unicorn11]

Dear Liam Morley<br><br>&nbsp;hi there is no need to change mode (chmod) the files of any html files unless and only unless the there is a program the alters the pages dynamically !<br><br>&nbsp;i still say that the is some tag missing <br>here is a easy way to solve ur prob<br><br>&nbsp;find a utility taht will search ur code for tags and check how many &lt;td and &lt;/td&gt; and the go on checking with all the tags that you get you get the problem solved search for &lt;td because it needs to find specific properties <br><br>you can also be careful that you do not use any tag that is not taken <br><br>if ur into dev then check using both browsers so that u know how each browser is going show it <br> <p>Unicorn11<br><a href=mailto:webmaster@tripmedia.com>webmaster@tripmedia.com</a><br><a href= > </a><br>Hi there it all likeminded fellows!!!!!!

 

[sodor]

OK, I have just proved that Liam is correct.<br>There was one page residing in the root directory that was, infact, being compiled by NN ( albeit the CSS was distorted beyond recognition -it was originally done in FrontPage!) <br>So that page was at least being compiled- if you goto <A HREF="

http://www.crystalcreative.com&nbsp"

TARGET="_new">

http://www.crystalcreative.com&nbsp</A>;&nbsp;with

NN you will see what I mean. ( the rest of the pages in root are not though). <br><br>SO, I put root/index.htm page which was working on NN into the tempor directory and 'voila!', it produced code. CHeck it out from NN:<br><A HREF="

http://www.crystalcreative.com"

TARGET="_new">

http://www.crystalcreative.com</A>

and<br><A HREF="

http://www.crystalcreative.com"

TARGET="_new">

http://www.crystalcreative.com</A>

/tempor/index.htm<br><br>SAME CODE, DIFFERENT RESULTS!!

 

[carpeliam]

unicorn,<br><br>If you chmod something so that nobody has read privileges, then it shouldn't show up in the browser. <p>Liam Morley<br><a href=mailto:lmorley@wpi.edu>lmorley@wpi.edu</a><br><a href=

http://www.wpi.edu/~lmorley/>

] :: imotic :: website :: [</a><br>"light the deep, and bring silence to the world.<br>
light the world, and bring depth to the silence.

 

[unicorn11]

i just went through the code of the file how the hell does i show it like it is unbeliveabvle go to <br><br>&nbsp;<A HREF="

http://it.domaindlx.com/unicorn11/temp/abhi.htm"

TARGET="_new">

http://it.domaindlx.com/unicorn11/temp/abhi.htm</A><br><br>&nbsp;ur

are in for a surprice (use netscape)<br><br>&nbsp;enjoy!!!!<br>&nbsp;the page ur seeing was done in 10 min flat checkit in both browsers <br><br>(dont mind the banner it the people who host my site's requirements)<br><br> <p>Unicorn11<br><a href=mailto:webmaster@tripmedia.com>webmaster@tripmedia.com</a><br><a href= > </a><br>Hi there it all likeminded fellows!!!!!!

 

[carpeliam]

I don't see any surprises... <p>Liam Morley<br><a href=mailto:lmorley@wpi.edu>lmorley@wpi.edu</a><br><a href=

http://www.wpi.edu/~lmorley/>

] :: imotic :: website :: [</a><br>"light the deep, and bring silence to the world.<br>
light the world, and bring depth to the silence.

 

[sodor]

I was away yesterday so I didn't have a chance to respond.<br>I'm not sure what happened with unicorn11's code but it was not what I have on mine.&nbsp;&nbsp;Where did you get that code from?<br>Maybe I gave you the wrong file. Or you view source from a different file (see end of post for clarification)<br><br>Anyway, I have solved the code problem, the files were .htm<br>files and the Linux server can't handle .htm files only .html.&nbsp;&nbsp;&lt;u&gt;( Why was IE able to parse the code anyway!!???)&lt;/u&gt;<br><br>As for what unicorn11 gets with Netscape, the site was originally done in Fronpage(not by me) which generated code&nbsp;&nbsp;that was... not.&nbsp;&nbsp;It was viewable in IE (figures) but not in NN.&nbsp;&nbsp;So, I've been redoing the code to make it 'platform independent'. Now that the .htm/.html problem is solved it's working fine in both major browsers.<br><br>I want to thank you both for your help.