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[sleew]

Does anyone has a feeling that we are becoming addicted to sofware.You will say:So what!It is just new way to live.And i say OK but...what happends when we stop beeing able to control addiction?What when someone else start to control what we really need.I am not talking about shoping addiction or something like that, i am talking about NEED!!!
Let say you have artificial livre that is controled by certain software on small module or chip and one day your software vendor release new version that supports heavy metals filtering for your livre.Let say you MUST by new version because your chip in your digestive system is not supported by out of date version.OK!You buy new version.
Tomorow your software vendor release new version of digestive system software that is not supported by your out of date womb chip and your medical advisor server on internet 'cause of course they updated MAS server!
Who controls tempo?!Who controls compatibility?Who controls price?You don't want to buy new release?OK then die in two months and prepare money for digital decomposition 'cause by the law your braindata will be decomposed to central server for further analyzes of software effects on your mind and bodie.Ok! I see your still live dady has 97% of chances to get cancer.Well he need some software, right?
Piece of cake, 15000$ and you will be brand new.Of course
ther will be 3999% upgrade in 2 months wich is unavoidable
cause we are also upgrading our MAS server to ver.2.4.7...

Think about it!
Sleew
Compaq & Microsoft TS
sleew@infosky.net

 

[edfair]

Not addicted. More dependent. And at some point you say "no more upgrades". So now you would find on my machines DOS, Windows3.1, windows95, windows98, and ME. But 95% of the productive work I do is under DOS 6.22 using Q&A database and wordperfect 5 or 6. Of course it also requires that I maintain older printers since the new stuff isn't backwards compatible.
Software companies control the tempo. They keep improving it (they say) and quit supporting the older stuff. So if your replacement hardware needs the improved software you either buy it or do without the new hardware.
I have a customer that is still using keypunches and cards. IBM quit supplying keypunches 10 to 15 years ago. But this customer said "no" to the hardware upgrade that would be required to get away from cards. And so they proceed along merrily with 2 machines that are 1953 vintage. Ed Fair
unixstuff@juno.com
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[monkeylizard]

So go ahead get your fancy-schmancy brain chips and kidney software. Ed and I will be fine with our Iron Lungs!
Monkeylizard
-Isaiah 35-

 

[monkeylizard]

oh! and leeches! Don't forget the leeches! Monkeylizard
-Isaiah 35-

 

[gunthnp]

I don't know about you guy but umm I not sure I would want somthing programed buy the big software companys in me can you think of all the bug in it we all would be dead way before the 1st update gunthnp
Have you ever woken up and realized you where not alive.

 

[edfair]

If you'll read the license really close you'll find that none of the software companies license their software for use in equipment for critical care. There is a reason.
Think the xray company that had a reset key bug and microwaved a few people was a wake up call.
Ed Fair
unixstuff@juno.com
Any advice I give is my best judgement based on my interpretation of the facts you supply. Help increase my knowledge by providing some feedback, good or bad, on any advice I have given.

 

[garwain]

I believe if I was going to have some sort of technology installed into my body I'd want to be sure that it would work properly and that It wouldn't cost me every cent I own to maintain it...

If I had any such chip implanted into myself and then the manufacturier contacts me saying if I don't buy this upgrade for it, it will kill me in a few days I'd have my lawyer on the phone in seconds...

Even Microsoft (pure evil) will release updates for critical bugs and security fixes for free. It is logical that if new features are released, you will have to pay for the new version, but if it is a fix to something that wasn't done properly the first time, it should be provided for free to the user.

 

[elizabeth]

Sleew, have you considered writing science fiction? You might as well get paid for this idea. Personally I think this is a non-issue as we are so close to cloning new organs on demand, but it would still make and interesting story.

 

[BeckahC]

Think "A Brave new World", "Gattica", and "The Giver" just to name a few...

The future is what we shape it to be... (not necessarily how we want it to be) BeckahC

 

[sleew]

yeeeah!Science fiction!What is science fiction?It's something it will happend sooner or later.FRP is something that probably won't happened.Chip in body?It is fiction for today and annoying fact for tomorrow.
Elisabeth, cloning...right?Well what if someone realise that he can earn more money with chips than with cloning?
That he can have better control with it?I know that Cris Wallas does not think like me but it still makes sense?What makes you think we are not living with clones allready?HA HA HA... just kiding...
We can think what we want but if some very fat and very smart guy decide to control us over those fancy-schmancy chips we are fu..ed up!OK you won't pay for new versions but you will not get all medical care with that product.There is allways better software.Maybe new product?New companies and new products?New payments?So instead of new versions you will have new companies every day with some better software and ONE very very fat guy behind them.
Sorry, but should we believe in germs? Sleew
Compaq & Microsoft TS
sleew@infosky.net

 

[sleew]

And by the way,if you find way to compromise them, remember, they can decompose people!!!!BUAAAAAA!!!!

Is it paranoia or i'm just familiar with human beings? Sleew
Compaq & Microsoft TS
sleew@infosky.net

 

[GlenJohnson]

There is something to be said about the licensing issue's of Microsoft. Do you realize, according to MS legal eagles, if you buy a copy of win98 and put it on a pc, that copy is good for ONLY that pc. If the pc dies, by law you can't go buy a new pc and put the copy of 98 you bought on the new pc? You have to go buy a new copy. (Don't think it's been pushed much, but this is what I got fromo a microsoft dealer.) Glen A. Johnson
Microsoft Certified Professional
gjohn76351@msn.com
"Time past and time future
What might have been and what has been
Point to one end, which is always present".
T. S. Eliot (1888-1965), Anglo-American poet.

 

[BeckahC]

Ok, That is just going way too far. How can they create contracts like that and not be procecuted? BeckahC

 

[garwain]

That really bug me because I have several computers. I use mostly linux, but I often like to test a computer first using windows (actually I have most of my computer dual booting, but I never have more than 1 machine running windows at a time.

When I buy/change computers several times a year I cannot afford to buy a new copy of win2k every time. I don't even try... If M$ wants to make a big deal about it I'll just remove windows from all my machines. This weekend I'm setting up a new linux box and installing openOffice, and I'll see if I can live entirely without windows **wonders if accounting software will work under wine...**

 

[BeckahC]

The main thing with M$ seems to be tha they seem to think that users can't get by without using their products, so thy can hike up the price and people need to pay - supply and demand gone awry... if everyone stopped buying, then they'd have to drop the prices... but I don't really see that happening anytime soon....

Bottom-line... I would not want M$ making anything that would in any way be place in my body! I'd rather control my own fate, thank you! ;-) BeckahC

 

[GlenJohnson]

Remember, I said they don't really push the issue, I think they know if they did, there would be h**l to pay. Glen A. Johnson
Microsoft Certified Professional
gjohn76351@msn.com
"Time past and time future
What might have been and what has been
Point to one end, which is always present".
T. S. Eliot (1888-1965), Anglo-American poet.

 

[BeckahC]

True... but the fact that it's in there leaves their options open. Who knows what will happen in the future?... BeckahC

 

[sleew]

As i understood only with OEM windows you are forced to use it on single machine.If you by full regular copy you can use it on any machine but only at one at a time.That is why OEM windows98 is so cheap (about $60).Maybe i am missinformed.Of course, MS licensing 6.0 smells like what GlennJonson have been told.
Don't know man....i just feel that controling people over software market is a logical progression .I'm sure that it is exatcly what is going to happend.I'm not pessimist but it is hardly to believe that man who sad that "maybe world is really going around me"(Bill Gates, 1997) will refuse software market as way to control information and existance.Look what they wanted to do with P4.Each time you go on internet your computer sends personal information to their server.My god!And someone even wanted to legalise it!Then who knows what what THEY do behind "stage".

"I will call my lawyer!" is so easy to bypass;for them it is just important to be smart and powerfull to legalise what you need.
Taste the system.... wan't like it!
Sleew
Compaq & Microsoft TS
sleew@infosky.net

 

[paleogryph]

Sleew, you are right on the $.

Fiction eh? I see something very similar to what you are describing taking place in the U.S. in the next 10 - 20 years. The high tech medical revolution that is taking place will not be some kind of benevelant(sp?) "lets help everyone be healthy" type of thing. Greed will rule, as it does now. Only those with the major $ will be able to take advantage of the medical miracles on the horizon.

Look at insurance and HMO's. Someone goes into the hospital for 4 days/nights for a strep infection and the bill is 20k! Come on! If you don't have good insurance through your work and supplemental insurance or you're a veteran, you're screwed. Here in California the state employees medical insurance recently told their customers their premiums would rise and coverage would drop. This is a trend that we will see in all areas of medical insurance.

Can we trust high tech medical equipment that is placed inside our bodies? Apparently no one heard about the recall a manufacturer of artificial hip replacements made because alot of the devices were leaking toxic substances into the bodies of their customers. Then there were the recalls of the pacemakers. Wait until software and remote wireless updates to medical eproms are the norm... You will either get a blanket immunity from malpractice for these types of products or the lawyers will be sharpening their knives.

 

[BeckahC]

Ah yes, greed rules now and likely always will... I see state programs that supposedly cover everything... Family Health Plus, Child Health Plus... but any decent healthcare provider can find loopholes -

Has anyone with eyecare coverage tried to get their eyes checked recently? There is a fee that they expect to get in addition to the copay - a "refraction fee" that they tell you up front is not covered by any insurance or "most insurance" and they expect the payment up front with the copay... they then bill the insurance anyway and those rare instances that the insurance does cover - well I haven't seen any checks or refunds... This fee is also at the doctor's discretion and ranges from $10 - $50 that I've seen and heard about, sometimes more, and doesn't seem to be regulated. Now I pay to be insured and I pay up front for the "extras" because when I go to the eye doctor I want to get my eyes checked, too!!!!

Sorry for the rant... this just reallly ticks me off! BeckahC