Adding Windows 2003 SBS to existing 2003 Server based Network

[PLK3541]

I have a Windows 2003 Server based network and I would like to add another computer that is running Windows Server SBS 2003. This computer would run our Deltek financial software. This software is now being run from a workstation on the network as a standalone server.

I would like to add this computer running SBS 2003 to the existing server based network without changing the existing server. When completing the configuration I am not sure how to complete connect to the internet step of to do list.

SBS 2003 setup created a .local domain, would like to have this computer in the same domain as existing server.

Help Please!!!!

 

[fs483]

Won't work. SBS must be the first DC holding all the FSMO roles. After a while, your SBS will shut itself down. Do a search on this forum and you'll get more info. However the other way around would work. First set up your domain with SBS, then add the Windows 2003 server as a member or DC.

 

[PLK3541]

Thanks for your help, please forgive me for my lack of knowledge as I am new to Microsoft Networking. I have this new server which I will need to install SQL and then the Deltek Advantage software.
It is my understanding the I will not be able to install SBS 2003 in my existing AD domain because there can only be one DC in a domain, and that SBS must be the FSMO master DC for my domain.

During the setup of the new server a new domain was created in My Network Places (also new to Trees, Forests, and Child Domains). My existing server and workstations are in the domain cea-enviro.com. The new domain was created as cea.local by default. Can a Trust relationship between the two domains be crated? I will need to link workstations from existing domain to the new server. Can I share resources that will sit on the new server?

How can I make this work? How can I have two domain controllers in the same subnet?

 

[58sniper]

You can always have more DCs in an domain than 1. The problem is that SBS must be the forest root, and it must hold all FSMO roles. You can have additional domain controllers, and additional member servers. You cannot have trusts, though.

Pat Richard, MCSE(2) MCSA:Messaging, CNA(2)

 

[surfgatinho]

You can always have more DCs in an domain than 1. The problem is that SBS must be the forest root, and it must hold all FSMO roles. You can have additional domain controllers, and additional member servers. You cannot have trusts, though.

Can anyone confirm this? I know there are instructions on how to add an SBS server to an existing domain but I wasn't sure if you then had to demote the existing DC.

Thanks

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[58sniper]

I do it all the time. Build a SBS box in a new domain. Add DCs as needed.

Pat Richard, MCSE(2) MCSA:Messaging, CNA(2)

 

[dkediger]

If you are adding SBS into an existing domain, intending to keep the same domain name root, yes you must have the SBS server seize the FSMO roles - thus demoting the original DC's operation master role.

I would think best practice would indicate, when nneding to introduce SBS into an existing domain, having SBS seize all domain FSMO roles, totally demoting existing DCs to member server status, then repromoting them to DC status if desired.

Be aware of the SBS limitations of 75 user/device connections when integrating into an existing domain. If you are near or above this level, you will really bork your domain as it can't be un-SBS'd.

 

[58sniper]

Well, it can be un-SBSed with a transition pack.

Pat Richard, MCSE(2) MCSA:Messaging, CNA(2)

 

[dkediger]

Doh!

That's what I get for it being the day before a vacation weekend!

I'll plead that I was thinking to the OP, where it appears he is trying to minimize his cost of SQL Server acquisition. I suppose I was subtley trying to hint that it would be more straightforward to to acquire the full retail product and avoid any potential domain role transfer issues.

 

[58sniper]

I agree. It's much better to start with SBS and add DCs or member servers than to try and add a SBS box to an existing domain.

There was an article online on how to do it, step-by-step, but I can't seem to find it now.

Pat Richard, MCSE(2) MCSA:Messaging, CNA(2)

 

[surfgatinho]

This one?

http://support.microsoft.com/kb/884453/en-us

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[58sniper]

That's the one.

Pat Richard, MCSE(2) MCSA:Messaging, CNA(2)