Adding GUI

[heyyunus]

Hi,

I have been always installing Linux in text mode rather than GUI mode.

I am wondering is there any utility other than KDE which i can install in Linux and start the service when required and then using VNCviewer get access to the GUI console also remotely. Once the job is done i can then shutdown that service.


The reason behind installing text mode is to make the OS faster (since h/w is old).

Any suggestions please?




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Yunus

 

[Annihilannic]

KDE is a window manager and desktop environment, you do not need to install them. You can replace them with a much simpler, smaller piece of software, of which there are many choices. I prefer blackbox or fluxbox (

http://www.fluxbox.org/),

for example.

I believe you will also need to install X, I can't remember whether VNC server comes with enough components to run on its own without X installed.

Annihilannic.

 

[Kozusnik]

I usually install KDE, let it start GUI, then change the init level to 3. Once there, you're running in text mode, but everything is already prepared for vnc.

Mark

 

[heyyunus]

I am aware of GUI, but installing KDE is asking for lot of dependencies. That's why i want any other software that can provide GUI and then i can do a remote VNC and get the GUI desktop.


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Yunus

 

[Trevoke]

windowmaker is a good lightweight window manager.

Also, enlightenment-0.17, while still in beta testing, is actually very good on slow machines.

"That time in Seattle... was a nightmare. I came out of it dead broke, without a house, without anything except a girlfriend and a knowledge of UNIX."
"Well, that's something," Avi says. "Normally those two are mutually exclusive."
-- Neal Stephenson, "Cryptonomicon"

 

[heyyunus]

Where do i get this two things? I am using Red Hat 7.x



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Yunus

 

[Annihilannic]

Have you tried Google??

http://www.windowmaker.info

http://www.fluxbox.org

Annihilannic.

 

[Trevoke]

http://www.enlightenment.org

http://www.get-e.org

"That time in Seattle... was a nightmare. I came out of it dead broke, without a house, without anything except a girlfriend and a knowledge of UNIX."
"Well, that's something," Avi says. "Normally those two are mutually exclusive."
-- Neal Stephenson, "Cryptonomicon"

 

[heyyunus]

Got it. Its asking for lot of dependencies:

error: failed dependencies:
imlib2 >= 1.2.0 is needed by e16-0.16.8.1-1.fc4
libImlib2.so.1 is needed by e16-0.16.8.1-1.fc4
libXcomposite.so.1 is needed by e16-0.16.8.1-1.fc4
libXdamage.so.1 is needed by e16-0.16.8.1-1.fc4
libXfixes.so.3 is needed by e16-0.16.8.1-1.fc4
libXinerama.so.1 is needed by e16-0.16.8.1-1.fc4
libXrandr.so.2 is needed by e16-0.16.8.1-1.fc4
libXxf86vm.so.1 is needed by e16-0.16.8.1-1.fc4
libasound.so.2 is needed by e16-0.16.8.1-1.fc4
libaudiofile.so.0 is needed by e16-0.16.8.1-1.fc4
libc.so.6(GLIBC_2.3) is needed by e16-0.16.8.1-1.fc4
libc.so.6(GLIBC_2.3.4) is needed by e16-0.16.8.1-1.fc4
libesd.so.0 is needed by e16-0.16.8.1-1.fc4


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Yunus

 

[Trevoke]

Careful : you're downloading e16, which is not e17

It seems you have an old version of glibc, as well. You may want to forget about e17, otherwise you'll have to upgrade your system entirely.

"That time in Seattle... was a nightmare. I came out of it dead broke, without a house, without anything except a girlfriend and a knowledge of UNIX."
"Well, that's something," Avi says. "Normally those two are mutually exclusive."
-- Neal Stephenson, "Cryptonomicon"

 

[heyyunus]

Ok any other tool which can provide me with the GUI shell without the hassle of installing so many dependencies.


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Yunus

 

[Trevoke]

Well, installing X.org (or Xfree86 which may be in your RPM repository, as it is the older version) usually comes with a built-in simple yet powerful window manager, "twm".

That may well do it for you.

"That time in Seattle... was a nightmare. I came out of it dead broke, without a house, without anything except a girlfriend and a knowledge of UNIX."
"Well, that's something," Avi says. "Normally those two are mutually exclusive."
-- Neal Stephenson, "Cryptonomicon"

 

[Annihilannic]

That's one of the reasons I use fluxbox, it has very few dependencies.

Annihilannic.

 

[heyyunus]

I am trying with fluxbox but even that has got the same dependencies.

Can you please tell me which RPM will suffice the following library modules:
error: failed dependencies:
/usr/bin/python2 is needed by fluxbox-0.9.13-1.rhfc3.nr
chkfontpath is needed by fluxbox-0.9.13-1.rhfc3.nr
fontconfig is needed by fluxbox-0.9.13-1.rhfc3.nr
libImlib2.so.1 is needed by fluxbox-0.9.13-1.rhfc3.nr
libXft.so.2 is needed by fluxbox-0.9.13-1.rhfc3.nr
libXinerama.so.1 is needed by fluxbox-0.9.13-1.rhfc3.nr
libXrandr.so.2 is needed by fluxbox-0.9.13-1.rhfc3.nr
libc.so.6(GLIBC_2.3.4) is needed by fluxbox-0.9.13-1.rhfc3.nr
libfontconfig.so.1 is needed by fluxbox-0.9.13-1.rhfc3.nr
libgcc_s.so.1 is needed by fluxbox-0.9.13-1.rhfc3.nr
libgcc_s.so.1(GCC_3.0) is needed by fluxbox-0.9.13-1.rhfc3.nr
libstdc++.so.6 is needed by fluxbox-0.9.13-1.rhfc3.nr
libstdc++.so.6(CXXABI_1.3) is needed by fluxbox-0.9.13-1.rhfc3.nr
libstdc++.so.6(GLIBCXX_3.4) is needed by fluxbox-0.9.13-1.rhfc3.nr
pyxdg is needed by fluxbox-0.9.13-1.rhfc3.nr


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Yunus

 

[Annihilannic]

It sounds like you are trying to install an RPM for a much later version of Red Hat. For example you can't just drop in a replacement libc very easily since every single programme on your system will depend on it. Is there any possibility of upgrading, since RH7.0 is pretty old now?

You would probably have better luck downloading the source for fluxbox and compiling it since you are unlikely to find an RPM for fluxbox that will work on RH7.0. Maybe you can find one for blackbox, which has been around longer.

You will need those libX* libraries for nearly any window manager I iamgine.

Annihilannic.