In order to freeze properly, we assign hatches to the layer of the object they are representing. Such as HONEY hatch we use on our TUB layer. ANSI37 to our EXCEL-KOMACEL or CELTEC layer. We need to be able to view EXCEL-KOMACEL layer with its hatch when TUB layer and its hatch is frozen in order to be able to STRETCH or modify in other ways. When a hatch is selected the LIST command and properties dialog box, references it as a hatch. Is there a way to have a LISP routine toggle on/off to freeze/hide hatch entities them-selves rather than the object that is being hatch? I realize that we could create a separate layer called, “EXCEL-KOMACEL Hatch” or “TUB Hatch”, to be able to freeze just that hatch, but it would be nice to be able to have a routine to freeze/hide all hatches. Actually the main reason that we would like to do this is when we try to DIMENSION an object that is hatched, inevitably we will accidentally choose the end point of a hatch rather the end point of the rectangle that we are trying to hatch. WHICH IS FRUSTRATING!! Thanks in advance for any help!! By the way this new Associative Dimension is COOL