a bit off-topic

[Rydel]

I've posted some question about WML/WAP on the WML forum here, but it seems a sort of... eh... dead. So, I am wondering where could I ask the questions about that. Basically right now I have two big issues:

1) Passing variables from one WML file to another. (Some data does not pass correctly)

2) Differences between WAP1.1 and WAP1.2 (Some pages don't display in on-line simulators, but only in the Nokia toolkit "WAP1.2 Blueprint simulator"

...and a bunch of simpler questions. ---

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[xutopia]

I can't help you with WAP. I think WML is dead. It never flew very high in the first place.

However I can recomment a course of action :

1) Passing variables from one WML file to another. (Some data does not pass correctly)

- What data passes and what doesn't? (determine this and maybe it will help you figure more out)

2) Differences between WAP1.1 and WAP1.2 (Some pages don't display in on-line simulators, but only in the Nokia toolkit "WAP1.2 Blueprint simulator"

- I think WAP1.2 is newer and offers more advances in security but that was just by scanning search results in google. Maybe the word blueprint here means that there is actually no working implementation of wap1.2 but that it is coming along nicely (eventually).

Hope this helps.
Gary

http://www.xutopia.com

Haran

 

[Rydel]

Thanks a lot for your answer!

1) Regarding the first question, you can view the original thread with a big chunk of WML code: thread181-27567

2) "Blueprint" is just a name of a simulator. There is a very popular WAP development kit - "Nokia Toolkit", which many peopl use for WAP development. It contains two simulators. One displays WAP1.1 (just like a normal Nokia phone would) and the other displays. So... the page does not want to be displayed in WAP1.1 simulator, but it does display correctly in WAP1.2.

3) I don't think WML is dead. Now I am working on a very important online banking application, and the client wants WAP-interface so that bank clients could do online banking via the mobile devices. ---

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[SashiRaveendran]

once 3g phones are out say goodbye to wap or should i say what?

 

[Rydel]

Sjravee, and what will be the replacement for WAP? ---

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[Rydel]

Sjravee, and what will be the replacement for WAP? And, by the way, when do you think this generation of the mobile phones will get "extinct"? ---

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[xutopia]

UTMS is really popuplar in China and it is going to replace wap eventually. Quite frankly WAP is a sore excuse for internet. Gary

http://www.xutopia.com

Haran

 

[SashiRaveendran]

the Mobile communication sector is one of the fastest moving sectors in the market today. Lots of big companies such as sony, bt, hp, compaq are all looking to create mobile devices that are far more advanced than todays crop of mobiles and if you wanna know what they are gonna be using as a replacement for WAP well the answers easy, HTML.
All new phones are gonna end up coming with lightweight versions of Internet Explorer or similar powerful operating systems, I ve read articles that are claiming that Java is gonna be the OS for some of these phones. I dont think it would be right to call them phones anymore, more like mobile communitication systems, video, audio and data in the palm of yor hand. When is this gonna happen:

(Honk Kong/Japan release data + Hype) + (anywhere from 6-18 months)

As with broadband take up in the UK everything happens horribly quickly and at a cost.

 

[SashiRaveendran]

the Mobile communication sector is one of the fastest moving sectors in the market today. Lots of big companies such as sony, bt, hp, compaq are all looking to create mobile devices that are far more advanced than todays crop of mobiles and if you wanna know what they are gonna be using as a replacement for WAP well the answers easy, HTML.
All new phones are gonna end up coming with lightweight versions of Internet Explorer or similar powerful operating systems, I ve read articles that are claiming that Java is gonna be the OS for some of these phones. I dont think it would be right to call them phones anymore, more like mobile communitication systems, video, audio and data in the palm of yor hand. When is this gonna happen:

(Honk Kong/Japan release data + Hype) + (anywhere from 6-18 months)

As with broadband take up in the UK everything happens horribly slowly and at a cost.

 

[Rydel]

Quite interesting! I was not aware of that (well, not the whole picture). I understand that they are being developed right now, but the question about timing remains: when will an average European consumer be able to afford all those new devices? Before then, I presume, businesses will want a WAP version for their site. ---

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[SashiRaveendran]

those units are on the way:

http://www.mmo2.com/docs/media/pr_xda.html

but if your client wants wap whatcha gonna do?