3300MCD Licensing Hack

[MitelExpert]

Is there any way to manipulate the 3300mcd licensing count without having to go thru the AMC? Just curious.......

 

[nytalkin]

Nope.

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[MitelExpert]

I figured it would be possible because you can perform an offline license increase with just a change of a password number.....

 

[kwbMitel]

It is possible to temporarily increase your license count by using the AMC to transfer licenses between systems. It is designed to allow this so that you can move sets from 1 system to another without having to buy duplicate licenses.

There is no way to do this without the AMC.

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[floppy1]

kwbMitel

Can you confirm that you can only move licences on AMC from one system to another ONLY if the systems involved are allocated to the same customer.

I have had conflicting information on the subject. We had a customer where we bought back the system and wanted to allocate the licences to another customer but AMC said no.

 

[SXWizard]

If the licenses were attached to the controller by manually printing a MOSS sheet or if the "grace" period for unassigning the licenses has expired the licenses are "frozen" to the controller. The only way to unlock them is to buy a new ibutton.

 

[LoopyLou]

You can shift licenses purchased for one customer to another once assigned. You can move licenses from one controller to another within a particular customer as long as the licenses were installed via download and not manually.

The single biggest problem with communications is the illusion that it has taken place.

 

[floppy1]

Thanks guys.

The problem is that the licences were assigned manually "offline"

So I need a new or different I button and then reset the hardware ID on AMC

 

[Supernova99]

You do not need a new ibutton if you can licence online
Once licenced and synched the licences can only be moved to another system that is registered to your company

If you have a CXi or an MXe you can use the WAN port to connect to the internet and licence online if your network firewall does not allow access to the AMC

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[LoopyLou]

I believe if you do an upgrade that needs a new password, like going from MCD 4 to 4.1, and the licenses are freed up. At least at some point that worked.

The single biggest problem with communications is the illusion that it has taken place.

 

[Supernova99]

@ Loopylou
Yes that will do it to as long as you licence online

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[LoopyLou]

Supernova 99:

Even if at one time you manually licensed if you do an upgrade requiring a new password those manual locked licenses are now available to be moved. Correct?

One other point:
Also there are some licenses that can't be moved, i.e if they are licenses that got migrated from a SX2000. Those can only be assigned to one 3300 and are stuck there no matter what. i.e they are not available as licenses that could be moved in the AMC. Also I think ( could be wrong ) that licenses that came with a controller as part of a system can't be moved.

The single biggest problem with communications is the illusion that it has taken place.

 

[Supernova99]

Hi Loopylou

Yes they will once again be unlocked after a upgrade with a online sync

Some packages (BOM's) include a number of licenses this are stuck to that controller no matter what

e.g. a Trunk gateway may well have 1 digital lik a IP networking license but no users as a package.
A future upgrade adds devices
You will not be able to move any of those licenses provided in the package, but would be able to move the added device licenses.

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[floppy1]

Hi Guys

Thanks for the insight

Sorry for the late response on annual leave. This is a 3300 CX on MCD 4.0

The SWA has expired so without spending more money upgrade is not possible. Also the original controller is faulty. That’s a whole other story no communication to LAN port just a blinking orange light when connected and cant ping it or wipe it.

Also bought as a SMB CX - Base Package so 16 of the 35 licences may not be of any use. I am going to try and use a spare controller reset the hardware ID on AMC and relicence on line.

It’s probably not really worth the time required to perhaps save 19 licences but will give it a go shortly.

 

[kwbMitel]

Before you go thru the bother I would try the VLAN OFF command via the maint port.

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[floppy1]

kwbMitel

yea tried that. I just get no indication of a connection on the LAN port.Tried changing system IP address back to default also tried to do a manual install of software using the FTP server on my laptop. No sucess

I have used my laptop to do manual installs many times so I am confident thats ok.

Mitel TS has suggested the chassis is faulty.