2 in 1 catalog, How do I flip the back portion of the catalog? 1

[cujobaby]

I'm currently working on a project that requires a 2 in 1 catalog. The main catolog on the front and the secondary catalog to be printed upside down and attached on the back of the main catalog.

The printer requires this delivered to them in one file. How do I flip the back catalog and maintain formatting, page numbering & TOC?

ps. I'll be working with the 'Book' feature so the main portion and the secondary portion will be in separate files.

If someone could suggestion some tips/ideas, I would greatly appreciate it.

Thanks!

 

[apepp]

...personally i would be inclined to export the book to pdf and rotate the required pages in acrobat...

...find out the pdf settings your print provider will be happy to accept...

Andrew

 

[cujobaby]

Thanks apepp!

I'm a little concerned that flipping it in the pdf will effect the gutter. what do you think?

 

[apepp]

...the gutter? are you referring to the cover here or are you implying that you have imposed your pages?

...i take it your catalog is portrait?

Andrew

 

[apepp]

...perfect bound, wirobound or saddle stitch?

Andrew

 

[cujobaby]

Andrew,

Yes. My catalog is portrait. I have not imposed my pages.

I know that this will sound strange. I'm not sure what they've decided as far as binding. 'They' being my managers. I just started working for a dsyfunctional company and I'm not allowed to confer with the vendors regarding specs... so I'm not sure as to the exact specs of the project yet; other than the flipped portion of the catalog.

Thank you for all of your assistance with this, I greatly appreciate your input.

-G

 

[apepp]

...the binding methods are often determined by the total number of pages a product has and the weight of paper used, typically the final binded book needs to be in multiple of 4 pages, if the total number of text pages isn't a multiple of 4 then you will likely end up with blank pages at either the back or front, typically the back...

...the binding method for perfect bound generally requires the cover to be artworked as a spread to include the spine, the spine width is determined by the number of pages and paper stock used for the text pages...

...as you are not allowed to discuss requirements with your output provider this will be difficult to determine and your right, that does sound strange and daft in my opinion...

...when exporting to pdf be sure to select the high quality settings, this will be a good starting point as you have been cut off from your output provider to supply information. Make the pdf to be single pages, not spreads with full bleeds, and (if choosing pdf 1.4) set the transparency flattener to high if you have used drop shadows and the like. PDF 1.5 and higher don't require flattening but the output providers rip will need to support PDF 1.5 or higher to flatten the pages...

Andrew

 

[apepp]

...you may find it better to print each indesign file seperately, the first right way up pages printed to postscript in sequence and then distilled in Acrobat Distiller or print to the Adobe PDF Printer...

...the second document (needed upside down when printed) may need to be printed in reverse order so that the page numbers go in reverse, this is in your print settings. This way page one of your text will end up as the last page in the pdf. So that the auto page numbers aren't continuing from the previous document you will want to ensure the pagination starts at page one on both documents...

...combine both the pdf files in your readers order to have one single pdf file...

...the other way would be to manually shuffle pages about in acrobat, although a bit of a hassle...

Andrew

 

[cujobaby]

i'm with you on the numbering and pagination. i've done all of the prep work with that already. i had planned on writing the pdf's separately, but hadn't thought about printing the 2nd one in reverse order, great tip!

you've really gone above and beyond in assisting me. thank you so much for taking the time...

-G