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I've got a popout menu that I've gotten quite close to where I want it. http://www.gamengai.com/main_beta_inv.php The main problem is that if I offset it too much, the navigation gets tricky. I can set it to where the popup looks like an extention of the original menu, but often the hover...

The code up there now is not what it used to be... hence, the errors. The page validated fine when I had the above problems. I've since found ways around it.

Thanks for the detailed explanation. Well, I didn't write the original CSS. I might've added a few things here and there but I mainly just edited. I'm sure I didn't add this though. :)

If you look at the dropdown menu on the first link, you'll see the problem. I can only describe it as wacky. I've since gone with another popout which seems to work as one would expect, across all browsers as well (although I've only tested Firefox and IE7) http://www.gamengai.com/main_beta_inv.php

Indeed, I will not deny that a cleanup is a good idea, but even cleaning up the code as much as possible (which I'm sorry to say won't help that much -- bilingual site makes for interesting code) won't solve this seemingly silly issue. The CSS sheets I'm using at the moment bare minimum, and...

I've got one last (hopefully) issue with my site tweak. This one is a head scratcher though. After editing up a pre-written horizontal popout, I've noticed that some of the CSS included (and quite necessary) for the popout interferes w/ my "a:link, a:hover, and a:visited" tags. The link...

Man, they really need the edit feature enabled here. display: inline results: in Firefox no change in IE 7, now each <li> item is of variable width: in IE 6 - -same results as without.

I've done some edit's to the Tanfa Horizontal Popout Menu (http://www.seoconsultants.com/css/menus/horizontal/), but have a few discrepencies between Firefox and IE6. In my first example (http://www.gamengai.com/width.html) everything is fine in both Firefox, IE6, and IE7. The only problem is...

At this point, time.

Yep, I've notcied that, unfortunately. I'm just looking for that "looks like same" idea. I don't doubt CSS probably does a better job, but I've already got the table code there... and still quite a few more pages to fix. :(

I can respect that, but the above, very simple discrepency between IE and Firefox should be reason enough to not have a pure CSS solution assuming I don't want a lot of tears, no? Maybe I'm just a black cat, but I've had bad luck getting the two to stay in harmony. I'm not anti-CSS by a...

It was just an example to make viewing it easy. The end is much more complex.

Actually... I decided to go with a forced padding solution. I've got various kinds of junk I'm going to put there.... some of which is a hassle to sort and put in properly. Would be more work to pad with extra cells.

I went w/ the "use a <td> to pad" solution. Would be nice if IE actually worked, but hey, it's M$. What can ya do. Thanks GP

I've got a table within a <td>, that is lined up perfectly fine in Firefox, and not in IE. The syntax I'm using is roughly: <table> <tr><td> <table style="margin: auto;"> <tr><td>Cell 1</td><td>Cell 2</td></tr> </table> </tr></td> </table> here's a link: http://www.gamengai.com/test.php...

Thanks for the tip Vragabond. I assumed it might be something like that, but wasn't sure. The reason you saw no problem is b/c I went ahead and changed the design to strict tables (no CSS at all for that portion) and it seems to have worked.

I have gone w/ a tables solution, and seem to have alleviated the problem, so I will stick w/ this. THanks for having a look.

I will look, but I'm pretty sure this happened on another machine. I'll test on my laptop in the morning. For anyone else looking tonight, I've put a border around the two div's in question. That might shed some light on it. Maybe I'm just cursed.

This seems to only be apparent in Firefox 1.5.01. I'm running 1.0 on my Linux machine, and don't have this problem. I don't have the problem w/ IE either. My site is almost done, but there are certain pages that display improperly unless you refresh. If you go to the link below, there's an...

All fixed up. Just gotta make a few more pages, then the fun working of moving that damn forum from the other server. O_o Thanks again!