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Angon, i just cracked it, Thanks anyway pixelchik - Todays a good day - lol

That's what i want to do but don't know how ... i just tried selecting the image with the direct selection tool(after live trace and expand) all the lines are selected but i ctrl x to delete background and the whole thing deletes. Can i have a little more details on how to do this please ...

O.K, i placed a thread on here a while back asking how can i use a 2d logo with the illistrator 3d-bevel and extrude tool. I was told i need to convert the image to vector to do this, but wasn't given any further instructions, maybe this is a simple process and self explanatory but i still can't...

By the way im using Illustrator cs4 on PC Ta

I am fluent with photoshop and have used it for years, but i have discovered that illustrator has an excellent 3d feature. I have tried to make a 2d logo i made in photoshop into 3d but the 3d effect adds the extrude and perspective effect to a rectangle around my logo, not around the logo...