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Lots of info at http://nortel-to-avaya.co.uk/ about this

IPO 5 Summary here - IP Office 5

To elaborate (and apologies I still havn't sussed out the proper way to post links), it's trip that there's a negative SEO consequence. Useability possibly

Sorry to be blunt... but this is tripe. I can think of about a billion pages that have links to themselves exactly because of navigation includes, and they don't suffer. Here are just two examples: Avaya US, Telefonix, Avaya US, bbc news... heck most big sites

weird what am I doing wrong Google Nass --------- View our View our IP Office Phone Systems!

Check out this new search tool from Google guys: Google Insights - it's really useful for market research Nass --------- View our www.telefonix.co.uk/IP Office Phone Systems[/url]!

Mitch672, maybe you're in the US? I assume that glimma is talking about the old avaya INDeX system which were very popular in the UK but have been phased out.

Thanks for that wahnula, appreciated check 1: Google check 2: Google

There are arrows on the leftnav which I expected to be able to click (web convention). They don't click

It's not a site, it's a list. A seo-driven, canonically-controlled .htaccess exercise, with this thread being one of its backlinks. Aesthetically it's nowhere. Useability-wise it's poor: having a different display on hover causes links to jump which, quite frankly, sucks.

What's interesting is that before I started working inside the industry, if you'd asked me what I'd prefer, paper or digital, I would have said paper. Hands up, call me a luddite, and I'm probably completely wrong (being the resident newbie), but for 'ol fashioned guys like me, pen & paper...

heh :)

We're fieldtesting it in the office. I guess I should put a piccie up http://www.telefonix.co.uk/avaya-1703/

Might want to have a look at statcounter too, they show addresses quite well.

Very nice site all round. One observation, I have the firebug extension for FF3 installed and according to that, the tracking script you have installed from w3counter.com hangs the loading of the site between 4 and 11 seconds.

Very clean. Perhaps a little thin on actual information, and I have a bit of trouble seeing the shade of grey used for the text on my CRT monitor, but basically thumbs up.

Hello Have a look at Google's keyword tool - as of a week or two ago they give a reasonable idea to the search volume

Seems to me a pretty nice effort for a fairly simple, straightforward site - nothing much "wrong" with it as such, althought the image thumnail "slider-out" does seem to have images that are slightly wider than the page which looks a bit iffy =). Perhaps, in a future version, or if you had more...

Well, yes sort of - and anyway this was exactly JMCG's original problem. "admin areas of a site that are ranking higher than the main pages". Ie being listed. I've personally found myself that even if you do robots.txt AND meta voodoo, pages can still get both listed and spidered if there are...

btw, wanted to add, one question that always bugged me for years was about how to use these with phrases. Say your page is about tall green widgets, do you do <keywords="tall,green,widgets">, or do you do <keywords="tall green widgets">. For what it's worth, it's the latter.